Scott P4 Alpine Ski
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| Converted me from snowboarding 04-28-09 |
Corey Christensen
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| My buddies all ski and convinced me to get back into skiing so I bought some Rossi S3's. Not impressed. Then I got some P4's for the pow days. This is an incredible ski. It is so damp that you don't get thrown all over when your busting through chop. Although its a relatively wide underfoot (108mm @ 191cm length), it handles great on groomers and ice, and its been decent for me in the moguls. It really shines in the pow and chop. This skis a little short due to the Pro-Tip geometry so the 191 feels more like a 185 or so.
One of my friend uses this ski as his all-mountain ski because its capable of all types of terrain. To say the least, because of these skis I have spent more days skiing this year than snowboarding. |
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| This is the funnest ski I've ever been on! 09-30-08 |
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Big Duke Six
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| After spending 3/4 of the winter on 5 different demo skis, a friend put me on his P4's. I was reluctant at first because I didn't want to limit when I could use it because the P4 was a fat ski. I've never been more surprised in my life! This ski rips! It doesn't ski like a big ski at all. Powder, trees, bumps, tight turns etc... I felt like I was 12 years old on my bmx bike ripping down the sidewalk kicking over trashcans! Everywhere I went the P4 shined.
Love the 70's Chevy Van topsheet! |
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| Perfect 11-17-08 |
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Alexei Kissell
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| I got these skis toward the end of last season. I hiked the ridge with them my first run, they were exactly what I was looking for. I had been on a womens powder ski, and as a former racer, they were a bit too soft even for powder. The ski completely changed the way I was getting to the bottom. The Scott P4's have the perfect amount of snap to them, throwing you right into the next turn. These skis, although quite wide, also perform well on groomers if that's the only way to the base. They are very stable at high speeds. Overall they were great in deep powder days on the steeps, groomers and backcountry in June. |
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| Tele Setup Advice.. 11-11-09 |
Mark from Seattle
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| There were lots of comments earlier here about 'core center' vs. 'chord center'. Chalk that up to poor listening skills. (And slap the ski product manager who printed 'core center' on his skis...that's just lame.) The proper term is 'chord center', which is the balance point of a ski if you were to balance it end-to-end on a knife edge - without bindingsChord center is mainly a tele setup term. In the 'ole days, it was where the pins of a tele boot were mounted. Nowadays, chord center is just a point of reference: NObody mounts tele bindings at chord center anymore.For alpine skiers, you can easily equate tele boot pin location to your mid-boot measurement. Tele pins are located on the duckbill at the front of the boo: measure from your middle-boot line to approx 1/2 cm ahead of the front of the boot toe box.For skis that are ~ 90mm midfoot, you should mount tele bindings at least 3 cm ahead of chord center. The resulting more centered stance makes turning much quicker. I describe the difference as feeling 'on top of your skis' as opposed to 'steering' your skis, and it still leaves plenty of float up front.My main skis are 183cm, 100mm mid-foot Line Prophets, mounted 4 cm ahead of chord center. They work very well in Pacific NW deep, heavy snow, to tight, VT icy bump runs. If you ski in the park, you should consider mounting them 6+ cm ahead of chord center.You can gain a lot more versatility by purchasing binding plates such as the Hammerhead and Rottefella NTN mounting plates. These are thin (~2-3 mm thick) metal plates that get screwed to your ski. They offer at least 2 different fore/aft mounting positions: use the forward position for in-bounds/sidecountry skiing, and switch to the rear position for deep snow. The beauty of the mounting plates is that you can quickly swap the binding position: the plate remains mounted to the ski, but provides multiple fore/aft binding holes.You owe it to yourself to experiment with mounting position.I also have a pair of Line Prophet 130s for deep snow conditions that are mounted 2.5 cm ahead of chord center.I swear I am not a shill for Line Skis, but I have to say they are fantastic skis... |
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| Pretty sweet 05-27-09 |
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Michael T Thayer
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| Got these off SAC in 191s, great flotation on powder days, surprisingly good on the groomers. Twin tips make them ski a bit shorter. I mounted them with center boot over the arrow on the sidewall...seemed to work out pretty well. I still grab the Mantra's for most days, but these are a fun addition to the quiver |
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| Great all around skis 05-21-09 |
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Dan Clayton
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| I have a pair of super fat powder skis and a pair of park skis but since I bought these last year I never ski anything else. If you are into skiing frontwards and backwards in any conditions on any terrain then these are your ski. The early taper makes the skis super playful and you never have to worry about your edges. The early rise is enough to make you float in pow with out having to deal with reverse camber. They are stiff enough to blast through chopped up terrain but soft enough to do a nose press without having to fight too much. They are really light weight for their size and work great in the park. The width of the ski provides way more stability then the skinny park skis. I would recommend them to anyone. |
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| Fun in the deep stuff... 04-20-09 |
6.ways.til1459765
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| These skis are a blast in the deep stuff. And they aren't too bad edge to edge on the groomers either. They would be a blast if they were lighter.
I don't tour, but i can't see these being fun to lug around unless its deeeeeeep.
I have also had problems with bindings ripping out. I've ripped the heel piece out of both skis. at different times.
i believe its the ski. but it could be the binding, i am not a ski tech.
Go with the longer versions (181+). The 171's just don't have the stability to blast through chop. (could be my crappy skiing)
still a very very fun ski. charges hard. |
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| Highly recommended 03-21-09 |
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Stew
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| Great powder ski. Very supple rebound out of deep powder turns, but firm enough to fly down the groomer back to the lift. I considered the 181, but am glad I bought the 191 because the effective edge is really only about 181 cm due to the twin-tip design. |
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| This ski kills it! 03-03-09 |
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Jaime
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| I went from the Gotamas to this ski with the intention of getting on something a little beefier. Success! I am 5'3" 120lb female ex-racer and just like others say, its a GS ski for powder. I have it mounted with a Marker Baron, which makes it a bit stiffer. Its heavy for the backcountry, but once you get your ass up there it shines! At the resort it hooks up great for big turns on the groomers; the elevation of the Baron probably helps. It's not my everyday ski for the resort, as it is not that quick in the tight trees. Nonetheless, it has a decent swing weight, so I get by. |
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| Just right for me 02-26-09 |
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conan
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| These skis ski just like I want a ski to ski, they are are not to wide they have some give to them and the few cm of a false front makes them very easy to ski in powder what ever the angle. They shine when things get steep and speeds get faster they are very satble and have great power transfer.
They come with a stupid sticker, to indicate the spot to mount the buinding, on then ripi that thing off mine was off kilter so I would be suspect of the others. I had mine mounted 1.5cm foward of the cemter of the boot mark on the ski and have been very happy with this set up, it is not to laied back or to far foward.
By the way I am 6'1" 210lbs and I ski the 191cm. |
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| Fun Ski 02-23-09 |
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Tyler Scott
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| Awesome Ski in Powder and Crud!! I am 6'5" and an aggressive skier and found the P4 was able to keep up with everything I through at it and more. Instead of my legs telling me it was time to get off the mountain at the end of the day it was the lifties kicking me off. The only down side to these skis is that the are a bit heavy and for those looking for a ski the could use on a day-to-day basis (such as myself) know that they are big skis. Well done Scott |
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| Great Ski 01-24-09 |
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Michael Clark
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| I have owned both along with Head Mojo 105's,I now ski these almost always.The Gotama is now chinese made and the quality was left in Germany. This ski rips and turns better than the head but if you like straightlining try the SuperMojo. I am 6'3",220# and ski 191's in all. |
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| Pow ski for an ex-racer 01-12-09 |
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Kevin Lalli
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| Tried these out just for fun after turning in a pair of Czars. They did the job, but especially compared to the Czars they were pretty boring. Wide enough to float on pow, but the weight and stiffness took away from their playfulness. Good news is they rip on the groomers, but who cares? |
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| Powerful, stable, and aggressive 01-10-09 |
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Joshua Keith
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| I just spent the past 5 days on these boards. I brought my old skis along incase I didn't like the P4's on groomers. It took me 3-5 runs to get accustomed to the width, but once I dialed that in... these skis screamed. They smooth out inconsistent conditions, float on powder, land drops soft, and love big lazy turns on groomers. They are much more responsive at speed, but they will negotiate technical terrain at slower speeds as you become more familiar with them. They felt 'stiff' in tight bumps, but that could simply be the time of year (and my poor conditioning). They immediately improved my confidence in 'off-piste' conditions and glade skiing. Great ski. |
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| mounting point 01-06-09 |
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andylogan22207831
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| I just grabbed a pair of 191 P4s and I have a question on the mounting point. It seems that the verdict is 1-1.5 cm back from boot center?? Whaddya'll think? Please weigh in. I can't wait to mount these suckers and get out! |
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| Amazingly stable rippers 12-29-08 |
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Jordan Moore
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| I'm 5'10", 160lbs and riding the 191s mounted on center...these were my first pair of Scotts (I have a pair of punishers now as well) and I absolutely love them. Stable at speed, blast through crud, burly bases...pretty much everything I look for in a ski. For their size they're very nimble and easy to get around in tight situations. Not recommended for hard pack naturally, but if you find yourself on a groomer they can still arc out some impressive carves. |
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| Awesome 12-24-08 |
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Matt
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| Great in the powder or what there is of the early season powder. I havent had a chance to hit up the park on them yet but they should be fun. The only complaint is the long transition time from edge to edge on the groomers. They dont like the bumps either. I was double ejected on the moguls but hey they are my powder skis. Cant wait to hit the steep and deep. |
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| The P4 Secret 12-02-08 |
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Rob de Luca
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| I picked up my P4's last year, never having skied a Scott ski in my life, and was totally blown away. What impressed me off the bat was the way you can really whip them around in tight trees, but then open it up and just hammer through a rough run-out like you're on something much straighter, heavier and stiffer. The fact that they carve groomers better than any fat ski since the 4x4 Big is icing on the cake. The "secret" is the metal sandwich that doesn't go all the way out to the tip or tail; soft ends make them forgiving and super floaty, but the Titanal keeps them stiff underfoot. Think "Gotama with a crust-busting extra high gear" and you have the P4 in a nutshell. I think this is probably one of the single best Western skis currently available, and the only reason you don't see more of them is that Scott has limited distribution in the United States. |
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| great ski 11-22-08 |
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Conan
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| these are my favorite skis around, granted I dont go for the super fatties, I like the trees and the steep stuff as well as the big air and these do it all so well. the 191s are big and bad take em for a spin and Im sure you will agree |
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| This ski Rocks 11-12-08 |
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conan
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| I am very happy with my 191s they are great a high speeds and when it is steep and deep. I like a softer ski that I can smear around. I no complaints here I love em.
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| one of the BEST 11-05-08 |
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Gabe Westheimer
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| i got a chance to ski this ski for a season and i still think it was one of the best all round semi fat (not over 110) skis i have skied. it is on the soft side, but that doesn't limit it too much. it is at home with powder though it can rip through anything. |
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| Lengths: |
171cm, 181cm, 191cm |
| Dimensions: |
[171cm] 132 / 106 / 126mm; [181cm] 134 / 108 / 128mm; [191cm] 137 / 108 / 131mm |
| Turn Radius: |
[171cm] 19m; [181cm] 21m; [191cm] 23m |
| Construction: |
Vertical sidewall, Titanal sandwich |
| Core Material: |
Hardwood |
| Base: |
Race finish |
| Tail: |
Twin tip |
| Binding System: |
No |
| Binding Included: |
No |
| Recommended Use: |
Backcountry freestyle, big mountain freeride, advanced to expert |
| Manufacturer Warranty: |
1 Year |
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